Drinking Horns; “GREIFEN KLAUE” [2]

The “Mother” of all drinking horns!

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PLEASE NOTE:

I DO NOT DO VALUE ($$$’s) APPRAISALS! There are way too many variables: condition, location, time of year, present trends in stein collecting, local (and now national) economics; but most of all = prior expectations by the owner, are among the reasons!

I have for over a year now placed these short “notifications” at the bottom of each page! It is now obvious to me the general public never gets that far before wanting to ask me a question on beer stein dollar values. So I have had to move them forward as I am getting tired of copying them and sending them back to people as an answer to their “stein value” questions. This was meant to be an informational web site only.

NOR WILL I KNOWINGLY DO ASSESSMENTS for the future selling of steins on auction sites such as eBay, etc. Go to the web site for “Stein Collector’s International” and click on “Stein Talk,” someone there might help you. I just do not have the time! My web site was really started as an informational site for beginning beer stein collectors that would be looking for the info and not the general public. This site has its own search engine [top right on each page!] SO if one puts in “Wood Steins” or “Hand painted steins,” it will give one a list of all the pages that has that subject matter within it.

STILL WISH TO CONTACT ME ABOUT ANY INFORMATION ON THIS SITE?  EMAIL:  STEVE (STEPHEN)  = thevirginian@cox.net

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“GREIFEN KLAUE” – Page 2

A 38 inch tall drinking horn of silvered brass. Circa 1870. 

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Detail of the ifgural base / supporter. See below photo on  mounts on this page for a similar horn by the same maker and an explanation of the finial.

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A typical sized drinking horn for a student fraternal organization . It wouls have been passed around  and used as a welcome cup for newcomers.

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A very nicely enameled 13 inch tall pokal, in drinking horn form, with Gambrinus, King  of  Beer as the subject. Circa 1890.

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Drinking horns remain an important accessory in the culture of ritual toasting in Georgia (Europe) in particular, where they are known as “khantsi.”

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The ad for the new horn shown above; taken from the eBay ad: How it is used is defined.

THIS IS A TRADITIONAL HAND CRAFTED, NATURAL VERY LARGE HORN FOR DRINKING WINE, WITH BEAUTIFUL HAND MADE ORNAMENTS {MOUNTS}  FROM MELKHIOR (GERMAN SILVER.)

This horn is made manually by Herman – master of Dagestan – highland in the south of Russia. Dagestan already is much known as the country of masters and artists. There make the world famous weapon and utensils.  On this horn there is the brand of master Herman.

This wine horn is made of a horn of the mountain goat and trimmed with German Silver (Melkhior). A pattern with which the horn is decorated, completely unique, such pattern is rendered only by master Herman. Pay attention to the bottom part of a horn which is executed as a tail of a swallow and it is decorated with a color stone.

The horn is ground outside and inside, carefully processed by antiseptics and it is absolutely safe for application in  {FOR} food purposes. Otherwise, all bulls were carefully checked and were 100% healthy.

From such horns on Caucasus drink wine on the big holidays, on weddings and funeral. Such horn full of best wine, bring to the guest of honor. HORN is essential instrument of TOASTMASTER-TAMADA during parties. TAMADA proposes toast, drinks FULL HORN of WINE and passes empty HORN to next guest and fills it. Guest proposes next toast and passes HORN further around the table, and so it continues, making party real fun.  Mineralnye Vody, Stavropolskiy krai, Russian Federation

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A fairly scarce version of a drinking  horn from this area.

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A 1912 photo of recruitment event for an unknown Austrian City Fire Department. See the mini fire-fighter’s helmet on the lid.

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A very unusual semi-professionally made ‘copper’ mounted horn and lid, dated 1890. [FWTD]

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An old German ad for an repair shop for broken antiques.

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Ad showing antique drinking horns. This USA White Rock ad is from about the 1950’s era.

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A scene of Elsa offering Lohengrin a drinking horn as a “welcome cup.” Painting on a porcelain pokal / urn. Circa 1880.
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For more info on drinking horns and old rituals, read this:  http://www.wyrdwords.vispa.com/heathenry/symbel.html
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A Circa 1850’s clear blown glass horn which can come off of it’s stand. A nice novelty.

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A blown glass, heavily enameled drinking horn. Circa 1890. About 23 inches long. The maker is assumed to be Josephinenhütte. I have only seen two of these decorative enameled horns in my now 41 years of collecting. Here’s the second above:

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And here is the first. Another by Josephinenhütte, about the same length.  [FWTD]

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An older small, hand held drinking horn.  Seller’s description from eBay (with a few additions by “himself.”) [ 4 -12]:

“A fantastic carved horn drinking vessel. Silver plate rim and internal cup – silver on copper  (Old Sheffield Plate .) Super folk art craved horn with the looped horn handle in the shape of a bird. Dates from at least the 18th century ,

it is possible  (and probable) that the silver plated rim and internal cup are a later mid to late 18th century addition and that the carved horn is at least of Renaissance age. The carving and design almost looks Anglo Saxon. The carving is very detailed and is decorated with cut circles. The bird form handle is carved with detail;- typical folk art style and design.

The silver plate on copper cup  – forms both the rim and the internal cup. There is an ivy shaped shield with the word Kenilworth.  (Kenilworth in Warwickshire is famous for its Castle which was built over many centuries from Norman to Elizabethan times and has been the scene of very many famous battles.)

A fascinating piece of folk art carved from a single piece of horn. Absolutely stunning and I feel sure that the prospective purchaser will not be disappointed . Clearly some wear and small areas of loss due to age and use. Approx 6″ x 6″  with a cup dia of 3.25″

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Drinking horn,  26 ” ht., brass, silver-plated, presentation: 15. Deutsches Bundesschiessen, München. 15. – 22. Juli, 1906, silver-plated lid. (tsaco)

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Another fine example of a horn with .800 silver mounts. Unknown maker. Probably German or Scandinavian. Circa 1870.

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A 20.7 inch, re-silver-plated horn. [TSACO]

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A removable carved wooden devil’s head, caped winged arms with claw details, and hoofed legs. Ca. 1900, I believe. Unique?

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36 inches tall, made for a German singing group.
 
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Silver mounts, about 6 ” tall , 9″  wide. No Marks. [FWTD] I am uncertain of the exact age, but before 1800  (as of this date = 11-1-10.)  If that is a bird’s head and not a dragon’s (which I think it is), it gives a clue to the area of origin being closer to Russia than say Denmark, as the Varangians  (the Vikings that went East through the Baltic Sea  and not West to the North Sea) mostly used carved birds on the their drinking vessels;  and the other Vikings mostly used dragons and horse’s heads.  The actual carved ships bows were left to the boat chef’s choice I think.
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There is a ship on the Bayeux Tapestry (made by the Norman Vikings) that shows a very similar bird’s head:


See the bottom boat’s bow = a bird’s head.  [blow up to about 150 %]
And for a great (and I mean great) animated show of the ‘Bayeux Tapestry; watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&v=LtGoBZ4D4_E&annotation_id=annotation_559561
I bought thise one above]off a collector’s sales table at the 2010 SCI Convention. Great silver chasing and engraving  on the mounts with their Celtic designs of intertwined sea snakes / water dragons.
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A modern day “close to it”  pewter and brass copy  in the style of the silver one above. Circa 1970.
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Another modern day horn. The deer as a supporter is not seen often

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Another Scandinavian beauty, with extensive Norse / Celtic design carving. 10 inches long . Ca. 1900. Scarce

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If one looks closely one will see a face carved in the top of the body

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Old style horn shown on .5 liter porcelain PUG stein.  (TSACO)
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Boar’s head view – A very well done relief blue and grey saltglazed stoneware drinking horn made to celebrate the hunters. Germany. Maker: probably Hanke.  Ca 1885. [FWTD]
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A pottery  not stoneware version of the same horn.
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Detail of boar’s head.

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“Greifen Klaues” – Silver mounts with great dragon end silver finials.  [Front] Dated 1630 with scrimshawed battle scenes and the names of the battles……….[Rear]  A special presentation and Dated 1561!

 

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NOT REAL DRINKING HORNS……  BUT SOME  THAT LOOK LIKE THEM
The top hanging horn [WHICH THE TITLE JUST ABOVE DOESN’T APPLY TOO]  has  silver plated mounts and  is of a communal type, engraved  for a musical society. Circa 1910. [FWTD]
Bottom of the photo: Cut ruby stained glass, with cheap silver plated mounts was made in China, recently. [FWTD]  See below:
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This is a design for a tee shirt ~ now discontinued I believe. It was  offered a few years back from “The Viking Lady.”] Great for a “Drinking Horn” collector.
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BELOW ▼- Chinese drinking horns =  A series of newer, rather large drinking horns, done with heavy brass [?] bodies, some are silver plated, and come with decorated porcelain or cut glass horns of different colors. They certainly are substantial. I have the one done in cut ruby glass in the photo above. Some sellers on the web are charging the old “arm and a leg” for them, having no idea that they are “fairly new.” Be careful out there folks! 

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DECORATOR HORNS –  Used as a vase  or just to clutter up a fireplace mantle. These can not be used for drinking because of the open spaces on the rim mount and / or the not flat surface of the rim. Still, they are attractive dust collectors.
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A nicely done brass  Griffin claw. Damn shame this horn is not for drinking!

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Same thing about this piece = used for a vase or a nice display.
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Someone needed  a candle stick for their mantle. Shame! The candle will burn crooked anyway!
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An antique Danish copper wall plaque showing a woman making a drinking horn. [R] Detail.
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I find the different holding mounts to be an  interesting sub set of collecting these vessels.
.SOS - a rdy DRINKING HORN  Drinking Horn, 25. M  ht., steer horn, heavy brass mounts, griffin center figure, Lohengrin type finial,TSACO
A very nice rendition of a Griffin for the supporter done in brass or  perhaps bronze.
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Very large horn with Silver plated mount. Ca. 1880. Maker unknown but not WMF!

 

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Monumental drinking horn, of a figural woman as supporter, and a figural lid of a  “Hippocamp” on the lid.  37.2 in.ht., 25 in wide, late 1800s, Base is 18.in  ht.  Silver plated. Unknown maker but probably not WMF!
The hippocamp (plural: hippocamps, Greek: ἱππόκαμπος, from ἵππος, “horse” and κάμπος, “monster”, often called a sea-horse in English, is a mythological creature shared by Phoenician and Greek mythology, though the name by which it is recognized is purely Greek; it became part of Etruscan mythology. It has typically been depicted as a horse in its forepart with a coiling, scaly, fish like hindquarter.

 

 

 

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CAN’T AFFORD A REAL DRINKING HORN HER IS AN ALTERNATIVE I BELIEVE ▼THIS EXAMPLE WAS ON EBAY IN 4-2014 AND THE BUY IN NOW PRICE WAS $189.00.

 

 

 

SOS - A RDY - DRINKING HORN RELICA - Maitland Smith Rhyton - Faux Steer Horn  - Table Decor,

Description:

This is an incredible piece from Maitland Smith. Maitland Smith has been producing furniture and accessories for the home for over 30 years, creating many hand made and limited edition items that are destined to become family heirlooms. This unique piece is a great example of Maitland Smith quality and craftsmanship. A rhyton is any of various ornate drinking vessels of ancient times typically shaped in part like an animal or animal’s head.  This Maitland-Smith rhyton is a faux steer’s horn with finely cast brass accents.  It can be used as a decorative accessory or vase.
This item measures 14″ wide, 18.75″ tall, 6.25″ diameter opening, 6.5″ diameter base.

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So after seeing all these examples,  PERHAPS instead of buying one, now you want to make your own drinking horn?!

Here are a few sites randomly selcted from a Google list  (These are not recommendations !)
What you will use for mounts, and where you get them is up to you! Have fun!
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“King Witlaf’s Drinking-Horn”

Witlaf, a king of the Saxons,

Ere yet his last he breathed,

To the merry monks of Croyland

His drinking-horn bequeathed,–

 

That, whenever they sat at their revels,

And drank from the golden bowl,

They might remember the donor,

And breathe a prayer for his soul.

 

So sat they once at Christmas,

And bade the goblet pass;

In their beards the red wine glistened

Like dew-drops in the grass.

 

They drank to the soul of Witlaf,

They drank to Christ the Lord,

And to each of the Twelve Apostles,

Who had preached his holy word.

They drank to the Saints and Martyrs

Of the dismal days of yore,

And as soon as the horn was empty

They remembered one Saint more.

 

And the reader droned from the pulpit

Like the murmur of many bees,

The legend of good Saint Guthlac,

And Saint Basil’s homilies;

Till the great bells of the convent,

From their prison in the tower,

Guthlac and Bartholomaeus,

Proclaimed the midnight hour.

And the Yule-log cracked in the chimney,

And the Abbot bowed his head,

And the flamelets flapped and flickered,

But the Abbot was stark and dead.

Yet still in his pallid fingers

He clutched the golden bowl,

In which, like a pearl dissolving,

Had sunk and dissolved his soul.

 

But not for this their revels

The jovial monks forbore,

For they cried, “Fill high the goblet!

We must drink to one Saint more!”

 

…………………………. Written by: Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.

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FOR AN EXCELLENT  ARTICLE ON THE LONGEST GRIFIN CLAW I HAVE EVER SEEN,  PLEASE SEE THE COPYWRITTEN ARTICAL ON: “Griffin’s Claw” of St. Cuthbert @http://learn.columbia.edu/treasuresofheaven/relics/Griffins-Claw-of-St-Cuthbert.php

YOU MAY ALSO WISH TO READ : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_horn

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WISH  TO CONTACT ME?  STEVE (STEPHEN)  = thevirginian@cox.net

    “Life’s like a bird, it’s pretty cute until it shits on your head.”

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