But Will They Float? Wooden Beer Steins and Drinking Vessels [2] Beaked Lids, Daubenkrugs, Tramp Art, and Misc.

 

 

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PLEASE NOTE:

I DO NOT DO VALUE ($$$’s) APPRAISALS! 

There are way too many variables: condition, location, time of year, present trends in stein collecting, local (and now national) economics,  never seen before (therefore no comparables); but most of all = prior expectations by the owner, are among the reasons!

I have for over a year now placed these three short “notifications” at the bottom of each page. It is now obvious to me the general public never gets that far before wanting to ask me a question on beer stein dollar values. So I have had to move them forward as I am getting tired of copying them and sending them back to people as an answer to their “stein value?” questions. This was meant to be an informational web site only.

NOR WILL I KNOWINGLY DO ASSESSMENTS for the future selling of steins on auction sites such as eBay, etc. Go to the web site for “Stein Collector’s International” and click on “Stein Talk,” someone there might help you. I just do not have the time. My web site was really started as an informational site for beginning beer stein collectors that would be looking for the info and not the general public. This site has its own search engine [top right on each page!] So if one put in “Wood Steins” or “Hand painted steins,” it will give one a list of all the pages that has that subject matter within it.

STILL WISH TO CONTACT ME ABOUT ANY INFORMATION ON THIS SITE?  EMAIL:  STEVE (STEPHEN)  = thevirginian@cox.net

 


 

 

WOODEN “BEAKED LID” BEER STEINS

 

 

 

The typical brass bands, holding the staves together on this “dated 1909” hand made stein from Munich. This was given to me years ago by SCI’s Master Steinologist Mike Wald (LI, NY) and I have treasured it ever since. The Bavarian Coat of Arms has been engraved on the front body of the stein. [FWTD]

Almost all of these type (beaked) wooden steins were produced in Bavaria in the area around Munich, mainly in the time frame of 1850 to 1920.

 

A copy of an old Munich postcard showing “The Maid” on a barrel, reading a paper with a wooden tankard, almost identical to the one above, just below her.

 

 

A hard to make checker board pattern  ‘beaked lid’  wooden stein. Circa 1920.

 

 

▲  ▲A V & B, Mettlach stein, No. 1947 showing a beaked wooden stein to the lower right of the scene, and about as tall as  the one shown just below.

 

 

 

Several of these “beaked lid ” steins were produced in pyrography kits for the young adults. This one is 22 inches tall, and lots of these were made as souvenirs, such  as shown  below  ▼

 

▲  ▲This example is more professionally made.

 

 

A print showing a painted “beaked lid ” stein with the Bavarian colors of Blue and White (really silver.) 

 

 

R- BEAKED STEIN IN WOODEN  LICHTINGER WITH WOODEN BEAKED STEIN.   EBAY  10-2014  ASKING OVER 800.00

BEAKED STEIN WOODEN STEIN – LID FROM PEWTERER J. LICHTINGER, MUNICH.

 

 

R- BEAKED  WOODEN DUELING STUDENT STEIN- UNUSUAL BEAKED WOODEN STEIN BRASS  ROUNDEL ON TOP - 2

BEAKED WOODEN DUELING STUDENT STEIN lid , UNUSUAL BEAKED WOODEN STEIN WITH BRASS-STUDENT SYMBOL ( ZIERKEL) On shield. same body as first on this page.

 

 


 

 

A “TRAMP ART” STEIN About a one liter German “Tramp Art” stein. This would have to rate at a least as a  “7” on  the Smith-Parator Rarity scale. But please remember just because something is rare doesn’t make it valuable! I do believe this is the only one I have seen in 42 years of collecting.

For a couple of very interesting article about the origins of “Tramp Art “and “The Real Tramps”, I highly recommend:

[1] http://www.folkartisans.com/sup/tramparthistory.html

[2] http://www.folkartisans.com/sup/tramhist.html

and for another side of the story:

[3] http://www.catchwestbound.com/hoboTrampArt/index.php

 

 

Given how thin the handle is, I am not at all certain. that this stein was made for use. Perhaps it was ……but I think a display stein would be more likely its fate.

 

 

 

 

 

Detail of the “Tramp Art” carving ~ not as easy as it looks.

 


 

 

SOS - BIRD'S  BEAK A fine Swedish CHIP -carved wood tankard 'Stånka'  ONLT  5.5 INCHES TALL

 What appears at first glace to be a Bavarian beaked  lid stein is not. This is very unusual “chip carved”  Norwegian [I believe [or Dutch] “creation” .  I just had to included it for my reader’s pleasure.  It is so unusual, I do wish this one was in the SM & T!

 

 

SOS  BIRD'S BEAK  NOT  NO BOT  LOOK AT THIS A fine Swedish hand-carved wood tankard Stånka

 

 


 

SOME (SO CALLED ) BLACK FOREST STYLES

A very unusual,(and scarce) “Black Forest Hunting” type  hand carved beer stein. 9.5 inches with a carved verse: “Hopfen & Malz./ Gott erhalt’s”  (Hops and Malt – God  preserve them.) Probably made more for display than use.

 


 

 

 

 

This pair of 18.5 inch hand made wooden steins was recently on eBay. No one  knows who B. Bondy was!

Talk about “folk art!”  (Assumed to be German only because of the painted spelter deer that were made there, pre WWII,  mostly for use in Christmas gardens.)

 


 

WOOD AND PEWTER,   “DAUBENKRUGS” (STAVED  TANKARDS)

 


         

Above ▲: Two “newer” versions of Thuringian Daubenkrug, both about .75 liters. Made in the mid to late 1800’s.

 


A .5 liter Daubenkrug , Ca 1880. This one is stamp marked: “J SEESTALLER,” underside of lid,. Unknown pewtersmith location or history at this time (No info about him in Stein Marks either).

 


 

 

So where or what is Thuringia? (as in Thurigian Daubenkrug?) The THURINGIAN FOREST (Thiiringerwald), is a range of hills in Germany, extending in an irregular line from the neighborhood of Eisenach in the N.W. to the Lobensteiner Kulm on the Bavarian frontier on the S.E. On the S.E. It is continued directly by the Frankenwald Mountains to the Fichtelgebirge, while on the N.E. it approaches the Harz Mountains, and thus takes its place in the great Sudeticchain of central Germany. The length of the Thuringian chain is 70 m., and its breadth varies from 6 to 22 m. It nowhere rises into peaks, and only a few of its rounded summits reach 300×5 ft. The successive hills form a continuous comb; the north-west slopes are precipitous and seamed with winding gorges.

 

THE FOREST IS THE HEAVY AREA IN GREEN (THE DARKER AREA IN BLACK AND WHITE) TO THE S.E. OF EISENBACH RUNNING ALMOST TO THE CZECH BORDER.

[“GOOGLE EARTH” PHOTO]

This range encloses many charming valleys and glens; the most prominent feature of its scenery is formed by the forests, chiefly of pines and firs. The north-west part of the system is the loftier and the more densely wooded as well as the more beautiful; the highest summits here are the Grosser Beerberg (3225 ft.), Schneekopf (3203) and the Finsterberg (3104), all in the duchy of Gotha.

The south-east part of the Thuringian Forest is the more populous and industrial; the chief summits are the Kieferle (2848 ft.), the Blessberg (2834 ft.), the Wurzelberg (2841 ft.) and the Wetzstein (2575 ft.). The crest of the Thuringian Forest, from the Werra to the Saale, is traversed by the Rennsteig or Rain-steig, a broad path of unknown antiquity, perhaps referred to in a letter of Pope Gregory III. dated 738. The name means probably ” frontier-path “; and the path marks in fact the boundary between Thuringia and Franconia. http://1911encyclopedia.org/

 

It may be also regarded as part of the boundary line between north and south Germany, for dialect, customs, local names and costume are different on the two sides. The rocks are largely volcanic, the stratification being complex. The mineral resources have been nearly exhausted, but the district is an important center of small industries (glassware, earthenware, meerschaum-ware, iron castings and toys being among its principal products) and a favorite resort for tourists. (Compliments of the “1911 Encyclopedia”:

 

 

A Thurigian Daubenkrug.  5 inches tall. Circa 1780; with a very distinguishable handle end finial, usually in shield form.  

 

A typical Circa 1840-70’s Daubenkrug, 2.0L, 11.5 ”  ht. City Arms  on front with with stags on side scenes, relief pewter lid  with Maximilian Rex. [TSACO]

 

A rare Arthurian Daubenkrug with 3 ball feet. Germany. Circa 1750. I have only seen this one with the feet in 41 years of collecting.

Rare and extremely expensive!

 

A Daubenkrug “Bustle Lady” character stein. German. Circa 1880. Extremely scarce.  [TSACO]

See: “Compendium – “B ” for other Bustle Ladies.

 

 


 

 

F.  SANTESSON, STOCKHOLM

Some of the nicest late 1800’s   Daubenkrugs were produced  by F. Santesson of Stockholm, Sweden in the late 1800’s. Shown [L]  A tall one ( a little over a foot) in the roerken  form.  [R] A typical wood and pewter  stein from his shop showing the Swedish national arms (and not German as stated in “The Beer Stein Book.”)

 

A very nice example by Mr. Santesson. Typical body and pewter work, with a great engraved Jester’s head in front and animals on the sides. This version is very seldom seen. [FWTD.]

SEE ALSO PAGE:   http://www.steveonsteins.com/f-santesssons-till-eulenspiegels-daubenkrug-new-9-6-11

 


 

 

Other Misc . Pieces  – Non Daubenkrugs

 

$ - SOS - DUTCH WOODEN STEIN -RDY    LOW RELIEF BRASS LID  AS ON PLAQUES, ETC. ON A WOODEN BASE STEIN. -1

Dutch wooden stein, barrel form,  with a thin stamped brass lid, made very much like the Dutch wall plaques that celebrate drinking in the their taverns. ▼  ▼  Ca. 1870. While made to look like a stein I think it had to have another function as the lip is too thick to be useful in drinking beer.

 

$-SOS - CHARGER  21.5 X 11.5  CALLED MADE IN ENGLAND nope

 ▲ Dutch stamped brass wall charger  [go with] — 21  in  by 11 in.  This is older than the stein above.


 

 

1 - WOOD  SCANDINAVIAN  TWO BALL S WITH LION -  COMPS OF Paul Teicher  SOS  READER -1

An extremely well done  Scandinavian  / Baltic States wooden stein  notice the second ball in his mouth [!] . Ca. 1700’s.

 


 

 

A very nice, latched finished, 13 inch tall Scandinavian / Baltic States  wooden stein with folk dragon as the handle. Circa 1820 -50.

 

 


 

 

▼  ▼ Just a short note about an old wooden vessel that well  might have been a stein some 400 years ago.

From the new York times–  through Google Published at 12:01AM, September 17 2012

Drinking habits in Shakespearean England may have led to some filthy hangovers,  judging by The very large volume wooden tankard found preserved in the mud of the River Thames.    A wooden tankard marked with the initials RH, pulled from the river bed in East London, can hold three pints, suggesting that its owner would routinely consume large quantities of beer in a single sitting. 

 

SOS - WOODEN MUG  400 YEARS  ENGLAND  THAMES RIVER

 

“The mug, **** which is made from beech, is thought to date from the late 16th or early 17th century.  It is the only surviving example from its era……..”

**** [Editor;s note:  given that handle design,  it ▲  well might have had a wooden lid attached (otherwise there is no reason for the top of the handle to extend pass the rin of the mug!)  In fact  there were many different styles and in better shape  found in the ship ” Mary Rose”  salvaged  from the Thames.

R- MARY ROSE, TANKARD FROM THE SHIP  --27 wooden tankards recovered from the Mary Rose were found distributed throughout the ship.

 

 

R- Mary-Rose  WOODEN STEIN [R] AND LAGE MUG [RUM SERVER [MIDDLE  [Q] ...

FROM THE MATY ROSE 1600’S BOWLS, ANOTHER WOODEN-STEIN [R];  LARGE MUG ,  A WOODEN RUM SERVER  [MIDDLE LEFT ]

 


 

MORE AT  [subscription required]   http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/science/archaeology/article3540114.ece

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